Romans 4

Romans 4:11 · Lane G. Tipton

Mm-hmm. And, and, and, and that’s, that’s really, I think, an, an important point. You, you could say this, that the sign and seal of circumcision, and, and could we look at this Romans 4.11? Absolutely. Yeah. Let’s, let’s look at this. If you could read that, we can comment on it.

Romans 4:11–12

ism is developed as both are signs of the righteousness God s people have by faith in Jesus Christ (Rom 4:11–12; cf. Col 2:11–12). Participants: Camden Bucey , Lane G. Tipton Geerhardus Vos develops the ethical elements present during the patriarchal period through a brilliant tr

Romans 4:11

remembrance of the sacrifice of himself in his death. The Lord’s Supper is a confirmatory sign (cf. Rom. 4:11) for the purpose of sealing all the benefits procured by Christ’s death unto true believers. Christ instituted the Lord’s Supper for the spiritual nourishment and growth

Romans 4:11 · Camden Bucey

Yeah. I think, just to conclude that thought, I think Romans 4.11 is pretty clear about that. That after Paul’s lengthy treatment of how we are saved in the same way as Abraham, and then he says that Abraham was supposed to give this sign and seal of the righteousness which he had by faith to his so

Romans 4:11 · Camden Bucey

Carlton, I think that’s the difference. Carlton, I think this comes back full circle, maybe, to where a lot of people start with baptism in Romans 4.11. To me, this is a big sticking point because what we have in Romans 4 is a mention of Abraham’s salvation faith and then the fact that he was given

Romans 4:17 · Michael Horton

declares a new world into being, and growing on Romans 4.17, for example, though not trying to place too much weight on it than it will bear, is basically this idea that you also find very firmly in the Reformed tradition in Heidelberg Catechism, question 55, that the Holy Spirit

Romans 4:17 · Lane G. Tipton

And you use the language that the justifying verdict poised toward believers, a la Romans 4.17, that that illocutionary act is the ontological source for all of the perlocutionary effects,

Romans 4:17 · Lane G. Tipton

And so, for instance, in Romans 4.17, the declaration of justification, the calling, brings into view imputation, verses 3 through 8, faith in verse 16, faith in verse 18, and Abraham’s faith is referenced directly in 4.17, so that it’s not an ex nihilo creation that’s bringing the rest of redemptiv

Romans 4:17 · Lane G. Tipton

saying, that there is no possible sense in which declaration could ever be prior to imputation. And I remember him talking about that in light of Romans 5.17. Oh, and talking about that in light of Romans 4.17, and tethering those texts in Romans, when God declares Abraham just, in light of what doe

Romans 4:25 · Lane G. Tipton

We’ll get to that in a minute. It strikes for Jesus when He rises from the dead, 1 Timothy 3.16. Yeah. And His justification brings into view our justification, Romans 4.25, but the gavel strikes at the moment, never prior, at the moment Christ’s righteousness is imputed to you by faith alone.

Romans 4:25 · Speaker 13

So here we see all of these different loci converging on this one point, which I think is captured, you know, powerfully by Paul there in Romans 4.25, where Christ is handed over for our transgressions, but he’s raised for our justification.

Romans 4:25 · Lane G. Tipton

here’s what Voss develops from this that I just found so amazing. He says, not only then, does Jesus bear sin vicariously, not only is Jesus vindicated vicariously, right? He bears the sin of his people, he is vindicated as sin bearer, as righteous for his people. Think Romans 4.25, he’s delivered o

Romans 4:25 · John Fesko

but I don’t think, that he, fully coordinates, the significance, of the resurrection, with justification, as Paul, you know, carefully, or, you know, closely links the two, in Romans 4.25, in that, you know, it’s like, I tell, I tell my, my church, or my students, that, without God, uttering a singl

Romans 4:25 · Lane G. Tipton

So, we’ve got to make that distinction, and the distinction that you’re making, Camden, so critical, Westminster Confession 11.4 makes it, here’s the key. Jesus died for our sins, rose for our justification, Romans 4.25, so that when he rose as justified, his resurrection

Romans 4:25 · Richard B. Gaffin Jr.

that the Church and those who belong to the Church through faith are, the Church is made up of those who have been declared righteous. And to support that, I would draw attention to a passage like Romans 4.25,